IM Landscape Growth Podcast
The $30M Lawn Empire: Kurt LaButte's 46-Year Growth Playbook
Episode Summary
Kurt LaButte of Todd Services shares how he grew a landscaping company from mowing lawns with rowboats to a $28M business. He unpacks lessons on leadership, learning, financial discipline, and how stepping aside can unlock team-driven growth.
Episode Notes
“I was the bottleneck. The biggest growth constraint was me learning to get out of the way.” - Burt Labutte
Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Todd Services - Kurt LaButte's company
Peer Group: Jeffrey Scott Consulting – growth-focused landscape peer groups
Books/Authors:
Simon Sinek – leadership and “Start With Why” principles
AI and leadership books (unnamed, referenced as part of Kurt’s learning path)
Game and Business: Referenced as a recommended resource for understanding measurement in business
Topics Discussed:
- 00:01 – Intro: Rob welcomes Kurt LaButte of Todd Services
- 01:13 – The origin story: mowing lawns with rowboats and the “Todd” name
- 04:03 – From small beginnings to $28M and 180 employees
- 07:28 – Biggest growth constraint? Himself—learning to get out of the way
- 08:24 – Surviving the 2008 crash: $10M down to $4M and losing his brother
- 10:18 – The turning point: realizing he was the bottleneck
- 12:09 – Joining a peer group and embracing lifelong learning
- 13:25 – Shifting from dictatorship to open leadership culture
- 15:44 – Tactical advice: sharing numbers, goals, and listening to staff
- 18:23 – Helping employees align personal goals with company direction
- 21:06 – Building for second generation and long-term retirements
- 23:33 – Why stepping away empowers teams and strengthens culture
- 28:28 – The fear of taking time off and advice for small business owners
- 30:24 – Learning numbers early and why metrics matter
- 34:36 – The value of patience, brand, and consistency in growth
- 37:24 – The power of peer groups for accountability and growth
- 39:16 – Books and resources: Simon Sinek, Jeffrey Scott Consulting, AI leadership titles
- 41:00 – Closing thoughts and gratitude
Actionable Key Takeaways:
- Get out of your own way – Leaders often create bottlenecks by micromanaging. Growth requires trust and delegation.
- Know your numbers – Don’t rely on guesswork; margins, costs, and metrics are non-negotiable for scaling.
- Embrace learning – Books, peer groups, and outside resources are critical, even if you’re an “old dog.”
- Share goals openly – Transparency with numbers and objectives boosts accountability and team motivation.
- Prioritize culture – People thrive when they feel safe making mistakes, voicing ideas, and aligning personal goals with company goals.
- Play the long game – Brand reputation and consistency compound over decades, not months.
- Step away sometimes – Taking time off creates space for your team to step up and develop autonomy.